Wednesday, December 15, 2021

They Shall be Grafted In

 1 Nephi 15:12 - 18, NC 1 Nephi 4 par. 3


Behold, I say unto you that the house of Israel was compared unto an olive tree by the spirit of the Lord which was in our father. And behold, are we not broken off from the house of Israel? And are we not a branch of the house of Israel? And now the thing which our father meaneth concerning the grafting in of the natural branches through the fullness of the gentiles is that in the latter days, when our seed shall have dwindled in unbelief — yea, for the space of many years and many generations after the Messiah shall be manifested in body unto the children of men — then shall the fullness of the gospel of the Messiah come unto the gentiles, and from the gentiles unto the remnant of our seed. And at that day shall the remnant of our seed know that they are of the house of Israel and that they are the covenant people of the Lord. And then shall they know and come to the knowledge of their forefathers, and also to the knowledge of the gospel of their Redeemer, which was ministered unto their fathers by him. Wherefore, they shall come to the knowledge of their Redeemer and the very points of his doctrine, that they may know how to come unto him and be saved. And then at that day, will they not rejoice and give praise unto their everlasting God, their rock, and their salvation? Yea, at that day, will they not receive strength and nourishment from the true vine? Yea, will they not come unto the true fold of God? Behold, I say unto you, yea, they shall be numbered again among the house of Israel; they shall be grafted in, being a natural branch of the olive tree, into the true olive tree; and this is what our father meaneth. And he meaneth that it will not come to pass until after they are scattered by the gentiles. And he meaneth that it shall come by way of the gentiles, that the Lord may shew his power unto the gentiles for the very cause that he shall be rejected of the Jews, or of the house of Israel. Wherefore, our father hath not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Israel, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days, which covenant the Lord made to our father Abraham, saying, In thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.


The Stick of Joseph in the Hand of Ephraim 1 Nefi 4 par. 3


Behold, I say unto you that the house of Isra’el was compared unto an olive tree by the spirit of yhwh which was in our father. And behold, are we not broken off from the house of Isra’el? And are we 
not a branch of the house of Isra’el? And now the thing which our father means concerning the grafting in of the natural branches through the Milo HaGoyim is that in the latter days, when our seed shall have dwindled in unbelief — yes, for the space of many years and many generations after the Mashiach shall be manifested in body unto the children of men — then shall the fulness of the besorah of the Mashiach come unto the Goyim, and from the Goyim unto the remnant of our seed. And at that day shall the remnant of our seed know that they are of the house of Isra’el and that they are the covenant people of yhwh. And then shall they know and come to the knowledge of their forefathers, and also to the knowledge of the besorah of their Redeemer, which was taught unto their fathers by him. Wherefore, they shall come to the knowledge of their Redeemer and the very points of his doctrine, that they may know how to come unto him and be saved. And then at that day, will they not rejoice and give praise unto their El Olam, their rock, and their salvation?  Yes, at that day, will they not receive strength and nourishment from the true vine? Yes, will they not come unto the true fold of Elohim?  Behold, I say unto you, yes, they shall be numbered again among the house of Isra’el; they shall be grafted in, being a natural branch of the olive tree, into the true olive tree; and this is what our father means. And he means that it will not come to pass until after they are scattered by the Goyim. And he means that it shall come by way of the Goyim, that yhwh may show his power unto the Goyim for the very cause that he shall be rejected of the Y’hudim, or of the house of Isra’el. Wherefore, our father has not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Isra’el, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days, which covenant yhwh made to our father Avraham, saying, In your seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

If we look back, is it possible for us to see that Lehi talked to his sons about many many things?

Didn't Lehi rehearse to his sons concerning the destruction and captivity of the Jews as well as their return to Jerusalem and the coming of the Messiah and the forerunner of the Messiah, John the Baptist?

Didn't Lehi talk to them of the baptism of the Messiah and also of His sacrifice and resurrection?

Didn't Lehi speak concerning the gospel that the Lord would preach among the Jews and the Jew's eventual dwindling in unbelief because of their rejection of His words?

Didn't Lehi speak to them of the Messiah manifesting Himself to the gentiles by the power of the Holy Ghost after His resurrection?

Didn't Lehi speak of all these things before speaking of the House of Israel and how they would be scattered and how it would be by the coming forth of the fullness of the gospel to the gentiles that all of the scattered branches of the House of Israel who had dwindled in unbelief would be grafted back in to the true vine?

With all of these many great things that Lehi declared, all of them being future expectations, why was the question from Nephi's brothers a question about the gentiles and the natural branches needing to be grafted back in?

As I ask this next question I want to clarify that I am not, by asking this question, seeking to denigrate Nephi's brothers.  I consider that their situation in posing the question mirrors my own situation.  I hope that by looking into a possible reason for their asking of the question I might be able to discover a weakness I possess and maybe focus on getting rid of it.

The question I have is, is it more difficult to understand things that are spoken to us by the power of the holy ghost if we have strongly held traditions coloring our views?

Is it possible that Nephi's brothers struggled with what Lehi had declared concerning the branches of the House of Israel being grafted back in through the gentiles possessing the fullness of the gospel because their tradition dictated that the House of Israel would never be confounded and that the gentiles remained outside of the the promises given to Abraham; they, the gentiles, were not blood of Abraham? 

One reason I wonder concerning this is the following statements from Nephi's brothers.

And now it came to pass that I, Nephi, was exceeding sorrowful because of the hardness of their hearts. And now when they saw that I began to be sorrowful, they were glad in their hearts, insomuch that they did rejoice over me, saying, We knew that ye could not construct a ship, for we knew that ye were lacking in judgment; wherefore, thou canst not accomplish so great a work. And thou art like unto our father, led away by the foolish imaginations of his heart. Yea, he hath led us out of the land of Jerusalem, and we have wandered in the wilderness for these many years. And our women have toiled, being big with child; and they have borne children in the wilderness and suffered all things save it were death. And it would have been better that they had died before they came out of Jerusalem than to have suffered these afflictions. Behold, these many years we have suffered in the wilderness, which time we might have enjoyed our possessions and the land of our inheritance; yea, and we might have been happy. And we know that the people who were in the land of Jerusalem were a righteous people, for they keep the statutes and the judgments of the Lord, and all his commandments according to the law of Moses; wherefore, we know that they are a righteous people. And our father hath judged them and hath led us away because we would hearken unto his word; yea, and our brother is like unto him. And after this manner of language did my brethren murmur and complain against us. (1 Nephi 17:19 - 22, NC 1 Nephi 5 par. 17)

Is it possible that Nephi's brothers considered that it was impossible for the House of Israel to dwindle in unbelief and be scattered because they knew, from their deeply held tradition, that the people at Jerusalem were righteous because they did strictly observe the law of Moses?

John the Baptist, seeking to disabuse the Jewish rulers of his day of their false ideas, declared the following to them concerning their tradition of being children of Abraham.

And the same John had his raiment of camel’s hair and a leather girdle about his loins, and his food was locusts and wild honey. Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judea, and all the region round about Jordan. And many were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who has warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Why is it that you receive not the preaching of him whom God has sent? If you receive not this in your hearts, you receive not me. And if you receive not me, you receive not him of whom I am sent to bear record; and for your sins, you have no cloak. Repent therefore and bring forth fruits meet for repentance. And think not to say within yourselves, We are the children of Abraham, and we only have power to bring seed unto our father Abraham; for I say unto you that God is able, of these stones, to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also, the ax is laid unto the root of the trees; therefore, every tree which brings not forth good fruit shall be hewn down and cast into the fire. (Matthew 3:4 - 10, NC Matthew 2 par. 2)

Is it possible to look at history and see that scripture, throughout all time, has been either misapplied or wrested or both by people, whether well intentioned or not, and that results in the creation of traditions that are handed down from parents to children over time until these false traditions are riveted in the hearts of children so that the children are unable to see truth because it runs up against their tradition?

Do we have any examples of this in the Book of Mormon?

Now the Lamanites knew nothing concerning the Lord nor the strength of the Lord, therefore they depended upon their own strength; yet they were a strong people as to the strength of men. They were a wild, and ferocious, and a bloodthirsty people, believing in the tradition of their fathers, which is this: Believing that they were driven out of the land of Jerusalem because of the iniquities of their fathers, and that they were wronged in the wilderness by their brethren, and they were also wronged while crossing the sea, and again, that they were wronged while in the land of their first inheritance after they had crossed the sea — and all this because that Nephi was more faithful in keeping the commandments of the Lord. Therefore he was favored of the Lord, for the Lord heard his prayers and answered them, and he took the lead of their journey in the wilderness. And his brethren were wroth with him because they understood not the dealings of the Lord. They were also wroth with him upon the waters because they hardened their hearts against the Lord. And again they were wroth with him when they had arrived to the promised land, because they said that he had taken the ruling of the people out of their hands; and they sought to kill him. And again they were wroth with him because he departed into the wilderness as the Lord had commanded him and took the records which were engraven upon the plates of brass, for they said that he robbed them. And thus they have taught their children that they should hate them, and that they should murder them, and that they should rob and plunder them, and do all they could to destroy them. Therefore they have an eternal hatred towards the children of Nephi. For this very cause has king Laman — by his cunning, and lying craftiness, and his fair promises — deceived me, that I have brought this my people up into this land that they may destroy them. Yea, and we have suffered this many years in the land. (Mosiah 10:11 - 18, NC Mosiah 6 par. 12)

Didn't it take several generations before the Lord, who sees the thoughts of all men's hearts, determined that He could send His servants, the sons of Mosiah, and later the brothers Nephi and Lehi, to preach righteousness among the Lamanites at a point in time where the Lamanites would be able to let go of the traditions of their fathers?

Prior to these times hadn't the Nephites tried to restore the Lamanites and the Lamanites would not be restored because of their traditions?

And now it came to pass that I, Enos, went about among the people of Nephi, prophesying of things to come and testifying of the things which I had heard and seen. And I bear record that the people of Nephi did seek diligently to restore the Lamanites unto the true faith in God, but our labors were vain. Their hatred was fixed, and they were led by their evil nature, that they became wild and ferocious, and a bloodthirsty people, full of idolatry and filthiness, feeding upon beasts of prey, dwelling in tents, and wandering about in the wilderness with a short skin girted about their loins and their heads shaven. And their skill was in the bow, and the cimeter, and the ax; and many of them did eat nothing save it was raw meat. And they were continually seeking to destroy us. (Enos 1:19 - 20, NC Enos 1 par. 5)

Do I adhere to traditions today that have the effect of blinding my eyes to truth?

Is it possible for me to hold traditions that cause me to reject the words of the Lord sent through one of His servants?

I would recommend a book titled Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes, "Cultural Studies in the Gospels".

Two things occurred while I was reading this book.

1) I saw how my own personal and cultural traditions, handed down through generations, have always colored how I have interpreted the New Testament Gospels and the teachings of Jesus.

2) I saw how the Lord's mission to the Jews both confronted and offended the traditional views the Jews held onto.  In Nazareth, the Lord's home town, this was exceedingly enraging to the local populace.  It was always enraging to the ruling class.

I believe, for me, that it is only by being willing to listen to and being willing to consider things that possibly oppose my own deeply held traditions and by being willing to let go of traditions handed down to me for generations, if I am persuaded that they are false, that I will ever be able to be a truth seeker.

Do children hold traditions when they are small or do they allow traditions to keep them from listening to other views?

Are children easily entreated?

Is it possible that these are qualities that the Lord had in mind when He declared that we need to become as a little child?

Would it be easier for me to  ponder upon and give careful and solemn thought to the Lord's words if I am willing to listen to and consider others' points of view?

Is it possible that the Lord's words may come from completely surprising and unexpected sources?

Is it possible that to study out something in your mind before approaching the Lord, which applies to us as well as it did to Oliver Cowdery, includes listening to and considering points of view that may contradict our deeply held traditions concerning a matter?

Should I consider that if I were in the position of being one of Nephi's brothers that I would find myself in just the exact situation as they were at this time in the record?

Nephi begins to expound on his father, Lehi's, words by explaining a topic that repeats several times in the Book of Mormon; this being the second repeat of this topic in the Book of Mormon record during their sojourn in the valley of Laman by the river of Lemuel among Lehi's family.

If a subject is repeated in scripture, should I consider that it would be important to understand?

Is it reasonable to conclude from the contents of the scripture record and from world history that Lehi's words concerning the dwindling of his seed in unbelief and their scattering by the gentiles and the scattering of the whole House of Israel have been fulfilled?

If the dwindling in unbelief and the scattering has been completed then where are we now with respect to the fulfillment of Lehi's other words  then shall the fullness of the gospel of the Messiah come unto the gentiles, and from the gentiles unto the remnant of our seed. And at that day shall the remnant of our seed know that they are of the house of Israel and that they are the covenant people of the Lord. And then shall they know and come to the knowledge of their forefathers, and also to the knowledge of the gospel of their Redeemer, which was ministered unto their fathers by him. Wherefore, they shall come to the knowledge of their Redeemer and the very points of his doctrine, that they may know how to come unto him and be saved. And then at that day, will they not rejoice and give praise unto their everlasting God, their rock, and their salvation? Yea, at that day, will they not receive strength and nourishment from the true vine? Yea, will they not come unto the true fold of God? Behold, I say unto you, yea, they shall be numbered again among the house of Israel; they shall be grafted in, being a natural branch of the olive tree, into the true olive tree; and this is what our father meaneth. And he meaneth that it will not come to pass until after they are scattered by the gentiles. And he meaneth that it shall come by way of the gentiles, that the Lord may shew his power unto the gentiles for the very cause that he shall be rejected of the Jews, or of the house of Israel. Wherefore, our father hath not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Israel, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days, which covenant the Lord made to our father Abraham, saying, In thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.?

As I presently understand it, an opportunity to receive the fulness of the gospel of the Messiah was presented by the Lord to the gentiles at the beginning of the Restoration, with the Prophet Joseph possessing the power and authority to establish this fulness among the gentiles if the gentiles would repent and respond to the words of the Lord through Joseph.

During this time, at the very beginning, the first mission labor was to the Lamanites.

The following is a history of that attempt.

Joseph Smith was born in 1805. Two years earlier, in 1803, we have the Louisiana Purchase. We
fought a war in 1812, and our enemies from Great Britain managed to co-opt the Indian tribes as
their ally in the war of 1812. We fought Great Britain back in 1776, then again in 1812. In 1812 they
managed to persuade the Indian tribes to come aboard with them and fight. So Americans were
fighting Indians in addition to the Brits. We decided we can't have that.

On September 21, 1823, through the night to September 22, the angel Moroni visited Joseph Smith.
By June of the next year (1824), the Rev. Isaac McCoy was in Washington D.C. lobbying for a new
law to be adopted. He would stay, lobby, irritate, agitate, persuade and finally convince Congress
there needed to be something done to prevent anything like the Indian alliance with a foreign power
from ever threatening the United States again. We've learned by sad experience, that when Indians
get a foreign power, as they are pleased to call it, they will immediately begin to excise Americans.
So Isaac McCoy made his case. In April 1830, the church was organized. Six weeks later, after the
organization of the church, the Indian Removal Act was passed in May 1830. The work that the Rev.
McCoy undertook had borne fruit. With the adoption of the Indian Removal Act, all Indians inside
the borders of the United States (as it was then configured), were forcibly removed from the Eastern
United States and placed into part of the property purchased in the Louisiana Purchase. This area
was given the name "the Indian Territory." All Indians were relocated west of Missouri, on a north south
line, that divided the United States from Indian territory.

Just as the mission among the Lamanites began, President Andrew Jackson, enforcing the law
adopted in 1830, was forcibly moving all the Indians. Remember the Trail of Tears and all the rest of
that? This was part of the Indian Relocation Act. Have you asked yourself why the Delawares
wound up living in the Louisiana Purchase area?

President Andrew Jackson was relocating all Indians to just over the western border of the Missouri
line. Therefore, at that moment in time, when the first four missionaries left on their mission, if they
were going to locate any of the American Indians, they had to go to Missouri. That was where to
encounter them. There was no other choice, you had to go there.

As it turned out, the location of Independence, Missouri was exactly in the middle of the areas
allocated to the different Indian tribes. Independence was at the center of the land adjacent to the
place the Indians were located. It also happened to be the trailhead for the only trail that came out
West, the Santa Fe Trail. This was the only trail west from Missouri to the Pacific.

At the moment when the first missionaries went out, Independence was the center of the relocated
Indians. As for the Delawares, we have a state on the East Coast named after their tribe. But the
tribe was located at that time on the other side of Missouri, in the Louisiana Purchase property.
Parley Pratt, as one of the first missionaries, went and preached to the Delawares. Have you ever
scratched your head and wondered what it was the Delaware were doing on the other side of
Missouri's Western boundary? Chief Anderson (that was his American name) Chief Anderson of the
Delaware tribe was taught by Parley Pratt. Parley gave him a Book of Mormon. You've read about
that in The Autobiography of Parley P. Pratt.

At the time the Indian agent was Richard W. Cummins. The Indian agent forced the missionaries to
leave the Indian territory. In fact he threatened to take them to Fort Leavenworth and incarcerate
them if they didn't leave the Indian territory.

Delilah McCoy Likens, was the daughter of the Rev. Isaac McCoy. This was the same Isaac McCoy
who was responsible for the adoption of the Indian Relocation Act. Delilah was happy to inform
her father in a letter she wrote on July 31,1831 of the following. "The Mormonites are about to take the
country. They are preaching and baptizing through the country, and are trying to proceed West to find the new Jerusalem, which they say is toward the Rocky Mountains. The agent has driven them off this side of the line and forbids their crossing it."

It was impossible because of the law, the agents, the circumstances, and the threat of arrest for “Mormonite” missionaries to get any closer to the Indians than Independence, Missouri. If they
stepped across the boundary they would have been arrested and sent to Fort Leavenworth. Rev. Isaac McCoy was quoted in the daily Missouri Republican, November 28, 1833 as saying: "The Mormons as I suppose from information, came here so ignorant of laws regulating intercourse with the Indian tribes,
that they expected to pass on into the Indian Territory, procure lands of the Indians, aid them and adopting habits of civilization, and attach them to their party. At the western line of Missouri they were arrested by the proper authorities of government."

It becomes increasingly clear the original target of the first missionary effort had nothing to do with
stopping at Independence, Missouri. It had a great deal to do with going into the western mountains,
the Rocky Mountains, and establishing Zion. But the good Rev. Isaac McCoy, the father of the
Indian Relocation Act, whose daughter was there on the scene married to a minister, combined to
stop the missionaries. All these parties were motivated by false religious ideals. Of course, both then
and now, the best way to oppose Zion is always to have false religious ideas. The required false
religionists were right on the spot at the very moment when, at its incipient stage, under the
guidance of Joseph Smith, the first effort began to establish the New Jerusalem. They couldn't
accomplish it then...

...I want to read to you from Joseph Smith's history, at the very end of his life on Saturday, June
22,1844 five days before he would be slain. You can read this in The Documented History of the Church, volume 6, page 547. "Hyrum came out of the mansion and gave his hand to Reynolds Cahoon, at the same time saying, 'The company of men are seeking to kill my brother Joseph, and the Lord has warned him to flee to the Rocky Mountains to save his life. Goodbye brother Cahoon, we shall see you again.' In a few minutes afterward Joseph came
from his family, his tears were flowing fast. He held a handkerchief to his face, following Brother Hyrum without uttering a word." So Joseph received a revelation on June 22, 1844 telling him to go to the Rocky Mountains. In June 1844 there were no more Indians in the area around Independence. They left. The location in 1831 was temporary, the circumstances were fluid, and by 1844 things had changed. (Forty Years in Mormonism Series, Denversnuffer.com, "Zion", Lecture 6, pgs. 161 - 164 )

My present understanding is that a necessary part of completing the Restoration is to present the fulness of the gospel to the children of Lehi in a way that they can be grafted back in to the natural tree. That is part of the responsibility of possessing the Book of Mormon; to present it to the descendants of the writers of the text and to the Jews who are also children of promise.

I also presently believe that this must be done while the power and authority is present on earth to re-establish the religion that was had among Adam in the beginning, the fulness of the gospel.  Joseph was given this power and authority from heaven.

I believe that when Joseph and Hyrum were killed by the conspiracy of traitors, the saints having failed to live up to the requirement the Lord had established in Nauvoo, that power and authority to complete the Restoration was taken from the earth; Heaven was offended.

This was prophesied to happen by the Lord at the time He visited the Nephites following His resurrection.

...and, thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fullness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations, and if they shall do all these things, and shall reject the fullness of my gospel, Behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fullness of my gospel from among them. And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them. And I will shew unto thee, O house of Israel, that the gentiles shall not have power over you, but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fullness of my gospel. But if the gentiles will repent and return unto me, saith the Father, behold, they shall be numbered among my people, O house of Israel. And I will not suffer my people who are of the house of Israel to go through among them and tread them down, saith the Father. But if they will not turn unto me and hearken unto my voice, I will suffer them — yea, I will suffer my people, O house of Israel — that they shall go through among them and shall tread them down and they shall be as salt that hath lost its savor, which is thenceforth good for nothing but to be cast out and to be trodden underfoot of my people, O house of Israel. (3 Nephi 16:8 - 15, NC 3 Nephi 7 par. 5)

Again, as I presently understand it, the task to take the fulness of the gospel to the seed of Lehi is still a future expectation for a group of gentiles who will finally repent and work towards obtaining the fulness of the gospel that the gentiles or gentile church initially rejected.

I believe that the founding of the New Jerusalem and Zion as well as the grafting back in of the scattered tribes of Israel, with the descendants of Lehi being one of the scattered branches, are events that are connected and will necessarily occur alongside each other or one will come about as a result of the work to accomplish the other.

When we have an opportunity to accomplish something with the approval of the Lord, we need to
do our part. The Lord is going to be the one who ultimately decides where the actual
accomplishment will take place. When it takes place, it's going to be in the mountains, and you need
not guess which mountains. The mountains are going to be out here in the West. It will be exactly
where the first missionaries were sent. They were stopped by the confluence of the law, hostile
society, and the management of the Indian tribes in 1831. When they tried to cross and go west, they
were threatened with arrest. They decided if they couldn't go west to find the location for a New
Jerusalem, they would do what they could as close to their target as they could get. They made the
practical decision to take the local, relocated Indians, and establish Zion right there on that spot.
The Lord gave a series of Revelations in which He essentially said, "If you can do that, then do that.
And that is acceptable to me and that will be Zion. Go to and have at it." When they failed He
essentially said: "Here is why you didn't pull it off: your jarrings, your envies, your lusts, your
contentions, that's why you didn't pull it off." But He has also said, in one of those extraordinarily
clever things the Lord does throughout history: "Zion will not be moved out of its place."
(Forty Years in Mormonism Series, Denversnuffer.com, "Zion", Lecture 6, pg. 164 )

Is now such a time when it is possible again, following four generations of cursing, for a repentant group of gentiles to seek after the fulness of the gospel and fulfill the responsibility to take the fulness of the gospel to the seed of Lehi so that they can receive everything Nephi told his brothers here?

And at that day shall the remnant of our seed know that they are of the house of Israel and that they are the covenant people of the Lord. And then shall they know and come to the knowledge of their forefathers, and also to the knowledge of the gospel of their Redeemer, which was ministered unto their fathers by him. Wherefore, they shall come to the knowledge of their Redeemer and the very points of his doctrine, that they may know how to come unto him and be saved. And then at that day, will they not rejoice and give praise unto their everlasting God, their rock, and their salvation? Yea, at that day, will they not receive strength and nourishment from the true vine? Yea, will they not come unto the true fold of God? Behold, I say unto you, yea, they shall be numbered again among the house of Israel; they shall be grafted in, being a natural branch of the olive tree, into the true olive tree; and this is what our father meaneth.

Please consider the following as we look at how this must be accomplished.

In 3 Nephi chapter 21, the Lord talked about some things that become exceptionally relevant in light of what we have covered today. “And verily I say unto you, I give unto you a sign, that ye may know the time when these things shall be about to take place—that I shall gather in, from their long dispersion, my people, O house of Israel, and shall establish again among them my Zion.” [This is addressing all of those various remnants, wherever they may be found, so long as they are some residue of the house of Israel.] “And behold, this is the thing which I will give unto you for a sign—for verily I say unto you that when these things which I declare unto you, and which I shall declare unto you hereafter of myself, and by the power of the Holy Ghost which shall be given unto you of the Father, shall be made known unto the Gentiles [You see, the Gentiles had to first receive some things] that they [the Gentiles] may know concerning this people who are a remnant of the house of Jacob, and concerning this my people who shall be scattered by them [the Gentiles]. Verily, verily, I say unto you, when these things shall be made known unto them [some constituent group of the Gentiles] of the Father, and shall come forth of the Father, from them unto you.”

It cannot come from any source other than from the Father. The Father and Christ being one. The authority to minister and to deliver His Gospel must come from Them. The power to baptize before the end will be brought forth from some remnant of the Gentiles who will bear it.

“For it is wisdom in the Father that they [the Gentiles] should be established in this land, and be set up as a free people by the power of the Father, that these things might come forth from them [the Gentiles] unto a remnant of your seed, that the covenant of the Father may be fulfilled which he hath covenanted with his people, O house of Israel.”

“O house of Israel” is much more than one group. “O house of Israel” is inclusive of all the scattered bits and remnants, wherever they may be found anywhere on earth. I talked about fulfillment of covenants when we were in Centerville. All the covenants that apply to His people Israel, and the remnants, need to be gathered into one group.

“Therefore, when these works and the works which shall be wrought among you hereafter shall come forth from the Gentiles.” [Not their “book,” but their “works.” Not their book, which has been brought out in 1830, but the “works” to bring the Doctrine of Christ to them. Someone must establish repentance, declare Christ’s doctrine, and baptize by the authority of Christ, to have people then baptized by fire and the Holy Ghost. These are the works.]“Shall come forth from the Gentiles, unto your seed which shall dwindle in unbelief because of iniquity; For thus it behooveth the Father that it should come forth from the Gentiles, that he may show forth his power unto the Gentiles.”

That is what He now needs to do with some who will assist in the work. That is what He intends to do if you will receive it. “For this cause that the Gentiles, if they will not harden their hearts, that they may repent and come unto me and be baptized in my name and know of the true points of my doctrine, that they may be numbered among my people, O house of Israel.”

You can’t get there except through the power of the doctrine and the power of the ordinance of baptism performed with power. God has given us the way, and told us how it is to be performed with the exactness, fidelity and language given to us by Christ Himself. “And when these things come to pass that thy seed shall begin to know these things—it shall be a sign unto them, that they may know that the work of the Father hath already commenced unto the fulfilling of the covenant which he hath made unto the people who are of the house of Israel.”

All of Israel will receive this witness that His work has commenced. “And when that day shall come, it shall come to pass that kings shall shut their mouths; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. For in that day, for my sake shall the Father work a work, which shall be a great and a marvelous work among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them. But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil. Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant. Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ…”

These are Christ’s words. We touched on these words in the beginning back in Boise. It was quoted by the angel Moroni referring to Joseph Smith, Acts 3, verses 22- 23. “For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.”

That prophet is Christ. It does not say Christ is going to come and deliver His words, it says “His words.” “Those who will not believe my words, who am Jesus Christ, they shall be cut off.” And the angel Moroni said to Joseph in verse 40 of the Joseph Smith History, “The day had not yet come when “they who would not hear his voice should be cut off from among the people,” but soon would come.”

That prophet is Christ. His words are what I have spoken to you today. We must all respond to His words, because if we will not we will be cut off from among the people. ("98: God in Our Day, Part 2", Denver Snuffer Podcast, December 18, 2019)

In the previous post "The House of Israel Shall No More Be Confounded" I shared my living witness that this is the time presented to us now as gentiles where we have again the opportunity, with the power and authority existing on the earth, to repent and be a part of this work now underway.

The Lord is setting forth His hand again this second time to recover His people Israel and He has established ordinances which are intended to bring gentiles into the House of Israel which places upon those adopted gentiles the responsibility to take these ordinances and this gospel to scattered Israel.

This is a reoccurring theme throughout the Book of Mormon. 

My present belief and understanding is that the fulfillment of these words of father Lehi are underway among a group of repentant gentiles who have accepted a covenant that God has provided for everyone on the earth if they so desire to receive it.

It is impossible for me to say what ought to be said concerning this matter in this blog.

I invite everyone to participate in the work now underway and I again give my living witness that this work is God's work.

I have studied the scriptures and the words the Lord is declaring now, I have partaken of the ordinances He has renewed again, and I have participated in a very small way in this work.  All of this has enlarged my soul and has become delicious to me.  That is how I know that this work is God's.  This is my living witness. 

I believe that this topic is critical to understand if we are to be able to get our bearings, where we are before God, in the history of the world we now find ourselves in.

Sunday, December 5, 2021

The Spirit of the Lord Which was in Our Father


1 Nephi 15:12 - 18, NC 1 Nephi 4 par. 3


Behold, I say unto you that the house of Israel was compared unto an olive tree by the spirit of the Lord which was in our father. And behold, are we not broken off from the house of Israel? And are we not a branch of the house of Israel? And now the thing which our father meaneth concerning the grafting in of the natural branches through the fullness of the gentiles is that in the latter days, when our seed shall have dwindled in unbelief — yea, for the space of many years and many generations after the Messiah shall be manifested in body unto the children of men — then shall the fullness of the gospel of the Messiah come unto the gentiles, and from the gentiles unto the remnant of our seed. And at that day shall the remnant of our seed know that they are of the house of Israel and that they are the covenant people of the Lord. And then shall they know and come to the knowledge of their forefathers, and also to the knowledge of the gospel of their Redeemer, which was ministered unto their fathers by him. Wherefore, they shall come to the knowledge of their Redeemer and the very points of his doctrine, that they may know how to come unto him and be saved. And then at that day, will they not rejoice and give praise unto their everlasting God, their rock, and their salvation? Yea, at that day, will they not receive strength and nourishment from the true vine? Yea, will they not come unto the true fold of God? Behold, I say unto you, yea, they shall be numbered again among the house of Israel; they shall be grafted in, being a natural branch of the olive tree, into the true olive tree; and this is what our father meaneth. And he meaneth that it will not come to pass until after they are scattered by the gentiles. And he meaneth that it shall come by way of the gentiles, that the Lord may shew his power unto the gentiles for the very cause that he shall be rejected of the Jews, or of the house of Israel. Wherefore, our father hath not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Israel, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days, which covenant the Lord made to our father Abraham, saying, In thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.


The Stick of Joseph in the Hand of Ephraim 1 Nefi 4 par. 3


Behold, I say unto you that the house of Isra’el was compared unto an olive tree by the spirit of yhwh which was in our father. And behold, are we not broken off from the house of Isra’el? And are we 
not a branch of the house of Isra’el? And now the thing which our father means concerning the grafting in of the natural branches through the Milo HaGoyim is that in the latter days, when our seed shall have dwindled in unbelief — yes, for the space of many years and many generations after the Mashiach shall be manifested in body unto the children of men — then shall the fulness of the besorah of the Mashiach come unto the Goyim, and from the Goyim unto the remnant of our seed. And at that day shall the remnant of our seed know that they are of the house of Isra’el and that they are the covenant people of yhwh. And then shall they know and come to the knowledge of their forefathers, and also to the knowledge of the besorah of their Redeemer, which was taught unto their fathers by him. Wherefore, they shall come to the knowledge of their Redeemer and the very points of his doctrine, that they may know how to come unto him and be saved. And then at that day, will they not rejoice and give praise unto their El Olam, their rock, and their salvation?  Yes, at that day, will they not receive strength and nourishment from the true vine? Yes, will they not come unto the true fold of Elohim?  Behold, I say unto you, yes, they shall be numbered again among the house of Isra’el; they shall be grafted in, being a natural branch of the olive tree, into the true olive tree; and this is what our father means. And he means that it will not come to pass until after they are scattered by the Goyim. And he means that it shall come by way of the Goyim, that yhwh may show his power unto the Goyim for the very cause that he shall be rejected of the Y’hudim, or of the house of Isra’el. Wherefore, our father has not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Isra’el, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days, which covenant yhwh made to our father Avraham, saying, In your seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.


Can we see here that Nephi considers the words of his father Lehi to be scripture?

He makes the comment to his brothers that I say unto you that the house of Israel was compared unto an olive tree by the spirit of the Lord which was in our father.

This is what the Lord has declared about words spoken by the power of the spirit.

Firstly, my servant Orson was called by his ordinance to proclaim the everlasting gospel, by the spirit of the living God, from people to people and from land to land, in the congregations of the wicked, in their synagogues, reasoning with and expounding all scriptures unto them. And behold and lo, this is an example unto all those who are ordained unto this priesthood, whose mission is appointed unto them to go forth. And this is the example unto them that they shall speak as they are moved upon by the holy ghost. And whatever they shall speak, when moved upon by the holy ghost, shall be scripture, shall be the will of the Lord, shall be the mind of the Lord, shall be the word of the Lord, shall be the voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto salvation. Behold, this is the promise of the Lord unto you, O you my servants. (D&C 68:1 - 5, T&C 55 par. 1)

I don't know if Orson Hyde ever attained to what the Lord invited him to attain to, what the Lord is offering here, but I would like to apply what the Lord declared here to Lehi and Nephi to see if they came up to and qualified under the above revelation, because my present understanding is that the Lord does not change and all are alike to God.

What does the Lord mean about all those who are ordained unto this priesthood?

What is "this priesthood"?

What is priesthood period?

I would recommend that everyone read and re-read and study the transcript of the lecture on "Priesthood" given in the 40 Years in Mormonism series of lectures found for free as a PDF download at Denversnuffer.com in the downloads section.

How would someone know if they have been "ordained" unto "this priesthood" or if someone they are hearing from has been "ordained" unto "this priesthood"?

I believe that the scriptures give the absolute best examples to use as a measure for indicating whether one is in possession of "this priesthood" or not.

The Lord declares that whosoever has "this priesthood", they are given a mission to "go forth".

Behold, I sent you out to testify and warn the people, and it becomes every man who has been warned to warn his neighbor. Therefore, they are left without excuse and their sins are upon their own heads. He that seeks me early shall find me, and shall not be forsaken. (D&C 88: 81 - 83, T&C 86 par. 15)

What happens if someone "goes forth" without having "this priesthood"?

Is it right or proper for someone to "go forth" based on their own initiative?

...Wherefore, let all men beware how they take my name in their lips, for behold, verily I say that many there be who are under this condemnation, who use the name of the Lord and use it in vain, having not authority. Wherefore, let the church repent of their sins and I the Lord will own them, otherwise they shall be cut off. (D&C 63:57 - 63, T&C 50 par. 14)

The Lord further declares that whosoever has "this priesthood" and is given a mission to "go forth" will speak as they are moved upon by the holy ghost.

Why would it be important for someone who has been sent forth to speak only as they are moved upon by the holy ghost?

Search these commandments for they are true and faithful, and the prophecies and promises which are in them shall all be fulfilled. What I, the Lord, have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself. And though the heaven and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by my own voice or by the voice of my servants it is the same. For behold and lo, the Lord is God and the spirit bears record, and the record is true, and the truth abides for ever and ever. Amen. (D&C 1:37 - 39, T&C 54 par. 7)

If the one of the Lord's servants speaks then the Lord is bound by those words, is He not?  The Lord has declared that it is the same whether the Lord speaks the words or whether the servants speak the words they are commanded to speak by the Lord.

Couldn't perilous unspeakable damage be done by a Servant of the Lord speaking outside of the bounds of the power of the holy ghost?

As I presently understand it, it is only by abiding by these things that the words of an individual actually become scripture, the will of the Lord, the words of the Lord, the voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto salvation.

My present understanding is that only those who attain to this work are called by the Lord "His servants".

What do the scriptures have to say about all of this?

Are there examples given?

As we look at these things can we detect that Lehi and Nephi have attained to this work?

Would it be critically important to understand this in order to accept and receive knowledge that will truly save and reject anything that will not save?

Again, what about "priesthood" or "this priesthood"?

I mentioned that I believe that the scriptures are the best teachers concerning "this priesthood".  They allow us a clearer understanding of what "priesthood" is?

What does the Lord say concerning "this priesthood"?

And also, all they who receive this Priesthood receive me, says the Lord, for he that receives my servants receives me, and he that receives me receives my Father, and he that receives my Father receives my Father’s kingdom; therefore, all that my Father has shall be given unto him. And this is according to the oath and the covenant which belongs to the Priesthood. Therefore, all those who receive the Priesthood receive this oath and covenant of my Father, which he cannot break, neither can it be moved. But whoever breaks this covenant after he has received it, and altogether turns therefrom, shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor in the world to come, and all those who come not unto this Priesthood which you have received, which I now confirm upon you who are present this day, namely the twenty-third day of September, A.D. 1832, eleven high priests, save one, by my own voice out of the Heavens. And even I have given the Heavenly host and my angels charge concerning you. (D&C 84:35 - 42, T&C 82 par. 17)

The Lord here states that all who "receive this Priesthood" receives Him.

What does it mean to "receive" the Lord?

How does one come to "receive" the Lord?

The Lord declared that whoever receives "His servants" receives Him.

It appears that one must receive "His servants" before they are able to receive Him.

We have talked above about servants. Who are His servants?

"For he that receiveth my servants receive me." [I suggested in Centerville that the word "servants" in this context meant angels. And “angel,” the word is derived from a Greek word that simply means "messenger." The messenger can't be on their own errand. They have to have a message that is being brought from the Lord. Therefore if the message originates with the Lord and the message is delivered by a messenger, it does not matter if the one delivering the message is a mortal. We find in the Book of Mormon where Jacob was told what he was to preach by an angel the night before he taught. (See 2 Ne. 10: 3.) King Benjamin said his sermon was based on what the angel told him to teach, after awakening him at night. (See Mosiah 3: 2-23.) In that context, both Jacob and King Benjamin were angels, or messengers with a message from God.  Therefore, as long as they bear a message from the Lord, they fit the definition.] 
"For he that receiveth my servants receiveth me." [That is, if the content of the message comes from the voice of God, and it is coming to you from Him, and is authentically His message, and you receive it as if from His own mouth, then you have received from Him His voice. But it doesn't end there.] (Forty Years in Mormonism, "Priesthood", Denver Snuffer, pgs. 89 - 90)


Is it possible to hear a message from a "servant" of the Lord and not "receive" that message?

Doesn't that happen all the time throughout the record of scripture?

Did Lehi and Nephi "receive" the "servants" of the Lord?

For it came to pass in the commencement of the first year of the reign of Zedekiah, king of Judah — my father Lehi having dwelt at Jerusalem in all his days — and in that same year there came many prophets, prophesying unto the people that they must repent or the great city Jerusalem must be destroyed.
Wherefore, it came to pass that my father Lehi, as he went forth, prayed unto the Lord, yea, even with all his heart in behalf of his people... (1 Nephi 1:2 - 3, NC 1 Nephi 1 pars. 2 - 3)

Is it apparent from the above that Lehi "received" the messages from the "servants" of the Lord sent to Jerusalem and that he was penitent?

Wherefore, it came to pass that my father Lehi, as he went forth, prayed unto the Lord, yea, even with all his heart in behalf of his people. And it came to pass as he prayed unto the Lord, there came a pillar of fire and dwelt upon a rock before him, and he saw and heard much. And because of the things which he saw and heard, he did quake and tremble exceedingly. And it came to pass that he returned to his own house at Jerusalem. And he cast himself upon his bed, being overcome with the spirit and the things which he had seen. And being thus overcome with the spirit, he was carried away in a vision, even that he saw the Heavens open and he thought he saw God sitting upon his throne, surrounded with numberless concourses of angels in the attitude of singing and praising their God. And it came to pass that he saw one descending out of the midst of Heaven, and he beheld that his luster was above that of the sun at noonday. And he also saw twelve others following him, and their brightness did exceed that of the stars in the firmament. And they came down and went forth upon the face of the earth. And the first came and stood before my father and gave unto him a book and bade him that he should read. And it came to pass that as he read he was filled with the spirit of the Lord. And he read, saying, Woe, woe unto Jerusalem, for I have seen thine abominations. Yea, and many things did my father read concerning Jerusalem: that it should be destroyed and the inhabitants thereof; many should perish by the sword and many should be carried away captive into Babylon. And it came to pass that when my father had read and saw many great and marvelous things, he did exclaim many things unto the Lord, such as, Great and marvelous are thy works, O Lord God Almighty! Thy throne is high in the Heavens, and thy power, and goodness, and mercy are over all the inhabitants of the earth; and because thou art merciful, thou wilt not suffer those who come unto thee that they shall perish! And after this manner was the language of my father in the praising of his God, for his soul did rejoice and his whole heart was filled because of the things which he had seen, yea, which the Lord had shewn unto him. (1 Nephi 1:5 - 15, NC 1 Nephi 1 par. 3)

Is it apparent here that Lehi after "receiving" the servants of the Lord also "received" the Lord?

In fact, is it apparent here that Lehi after "receiving" the Lord also "received" the Father?

Therefore, I would that ye should know that after the Lord had shewn so many marvelous things unto my father Lehi, yea, concerning the destruction of Jerusalem, behold, he went forth among the people and began to prophesy and to declare unto them concerning the things which he had both seen and heard. And it came to pass that the Jews did mock him because of the things which he testified of them, for he truly testified of their wickedness and their abominations. And he testified that the things which he saw and heard, and also the things which he read in the book, manifested plainly of the coming of a messiah and also the redemption of the world. And when the Jews heard these things they were angry with him, yea, even as with the prophets of old, whom they had cast out and stoned and slain; and they also sought his life that they might take it away. But behold, I, Nephi, will shew unto you that the tender mercies of the Lord are over all those whom he hath chosen because of their faith to make them mighty, even unto the power of deliverance. (1 Nephi 1:18 - 20, NC 1 Nephi 1 par. 5)

Is it possible to detect that Lehi, after "receiving" first the Lord's "servants" and then the Lord and then the Father now possesses "this priesthood" the Lord revealed in T&C 82?

Can we detect from the above that Lehi now has been given the following charge concerning "this Priesthood"?

And behold and lo, this is an example unto all those who are ordained unto this priesthood, whose mission is appointed unto them to go forth. And this is the example unto them that they shall speak as they are moved upon by the holy ghost. And whatever they shall speak, when moved upon by the holy ghost, shall be scripture, shall be the will of the Lord, shall be the mind of the Lord, shall be the word of the Lord, shall be the voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto salvation. Behold, this is the promise of the Lord unto you, O you my servants.

If Lehi became a "servant" of the Lord, then did the words he spoke by the power of the holy ghost contain the power of God unto salvation?

Did Lehi speak by the power of the holy ghost unto his children?

And now I, Nephi, do not make a full account of the things which my father had written, for he hath written many things which he saw in visions and in dreams. And he also hath written many things which he prophesied and spake unto his children, of which I shall not make a full account. But I shall make an account of my proceedings in my days. Behold, I make an abridgment of the record of my father upon plates which I have made with mine own hands. Wherefore, after that I have abridged the record of my father, then will I make an account of mine own life. (1 Nephi 1:16 - 17, NC 1 Nephi 1 par. 4)

Did Lehi become a "servant" of the Lord to his family?

And it came to pass that I, Nephi, being exceeding young, nevertheless, being large in stature, and also having great desires to know of the mysteries of God, wherefore I cried unto the Lord. And behold, he did visit me and did soften my heart that I did believe all the words which had been spoken by my father; wherefore, I did not rebel against him like unto my brothers. And I spake unto Sam, making known unto him the things which the Lord had manifested unto me by his holy spirit. And it came to pass that he believed in my words. But behold, Laman and Lemuel would not hearken unto my words. And being grieved because of the hardness of their hearts, I cried unto the Lord for them. And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto me, saying, Blessed art thou, Nephi, because of thy faith, for thou hast sought me diligently with lowliness of heart. And inasmuch as ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall prosper and shall be led to a land of promise, yea, even a land which I have prepared for you, a land which is choice above all other lands. And inasmuch as thy brethren shall rebel against thee, they shall be cut off from the presence of the Lord. And inasmuch as thou shalt keep my commandments, thou shalt be made a ruler and a teacher over thy brethren. For behold, in that day that they shall rebel against me, I will curse them even with a sore curse, and they shall have no power over thy seed except they shall rebel against me also. And if it so be that they rebel against me, they shall be a scourge unto thy seed to stir them up in the ways of remembrance. (1 Nephi 1:16 - 24, NC 1 Nephi 1 par. 9)

Did Nephi "receive" a "servant" of the Lord by believing all the words spoken by his father, Lehi?

Did Nephi also "receive" the Lord?

And it came to pass that I, Nephi, returned from speaking with the Lord, to the tent of my father... (1 Nephi 3:1, NC 1 Nephi 1 par. 10)

... for I spake unto him as a man speaketh, for I beheld that he was in the form of a man. Yet nevertheless, I knew that it was the spirit of the Lord; and he spake unto me as a man speaketh with another. (1 Nephi 11:11, NC 1 Nephi 3 par. 7)

Did Nephi also "receive the Father?

My present understanding is that the following was a conversation with Nephi, the Lord, and the Father all present together.

But behold, my beloved brethren, thus came the voice of the Son unto me, saying, After ye have repented of your sins, and witnessed unto the Father that ye are willing to keep my commandments by the baptism of water, and have received the baptism of fire and of the holy ghost, and can speak with a new tongue — yea, even with the tongue of angels — and after this should deny me, it would have been better for you that ye had not known me. And I heard a voice from the Father saying, Yea, the words of my beloved are true and faithful. He that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved. And now my beloved brethren, I know by this that unless a man shall endure to the end in following the example of the Son of the living God, he cannot be saved. Wherefore, do the things which I have told you I have seen that your Lord and your Redeemer should do; for, for this cause have they been shewn unto me: that ye might know the gate by which ye should enter. For the gate by which ye should enter is repentance and baptism by water, and then cometh a remission of your sins by fire and by the holy ghost. And then are ye in this straight and narrow path which leads to eternal life. Yea, ye have entered in by the gate, ye have done according to the commandments of the Father and the Son, and ye have received the holy ghost, which witness of the Father and the Son unto the fulfilling of the promise which he hath made, that if ye entered in by the way, ye should receive. (2 Nephi 31:14 - 18, NC 2 Nephi 13 par. 3)

By following the same path as his father, Lehi, did Nephi also come up to being "ordained" unto this priesthood"?

Was Nephi made a "servant" of the Lord because following his receiving of "this priesthood" Nephi was sent to his brothers?

And inasmuch as thou shalt keep my commandments, thou shalt be made a ruler and a teacher over thy brethren.

Do Nephi's words as spoken by the holy ghost now contain the power of God unto salvation for his brothers and also to us?

Is there a pattern here?

Lehi and Nephi are two examples but aren't the scriptures completely full of examples of people who have followed this same path?

My present understanding is that "this priesthood" has everything to do with a real life face to face association in mortality with both the Father and the Son. 

... Thus we behold the keys of this Priesthood consisted in obtaining the voice of Jehovah, that he talked with him in a familiar and friendly manner, that he continued to him the keys, the covenants, the power, and the glory with which he blessed Adam at the beginning, and the offering of sacrifice which also shall be continued at the last time. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith pg. 171, T&C 140 par. 16) 

It has absolutely nothing to do with a position of authority in an organization.

Only a person possessing "this priesthood" can speak when moved upon by the holy ghost so that their words become scripture, the will of the Lord, the mind of the Lord, the word of the Lord, and the power of the Lord unto salvation. 

Those who possess "this priesthood" do not claim authority over others to direct or to compel them. 

They possess knowledge from God that they are commanded to impart to the children of men according to the heed and diligence the children of men give to the words of God.

They are preachers of righteousness.

As I presently understand it, "this priesthood" can be and is possessed by women and children as well as men.

Please consider the following.

And it came to pass that after I, the Lord God, had driven them out, that Adam began to till the earth, and to have dominion over all the beasts of the field, and to eat his bread by the sweat of the brow as I, the Lord, had commanded him. And Eve also, his wife, did labor with him. And Adam knew his wife, and she bore unto him sons and daughters, and they began to multiply and to replenish the earth. And from that time forth, the sons and daughters of Adam began to divide two and two in the land, and to till the land, and to tend flocks; and they also begot sons and daughters.
And Adam called upon the name of the Lord, and Eve also, his wife; and they heard the voice of the Lord from the way toward the Garden of Eden speaking unto them, and they saw him not, for they were shut out from his presence. And he gave unto them commandment that they should worship the Lord their God and should offer the firstlings of their flocks for an offering unto the Lord. And Adam was obedient unto the commandments of the Lord.
And after many days, an angel of the Lord appeared unto Adam, saying, Why do you offer sacrifices unto the Lord? And Adam said unto him, I know not but the Lord commanded me. And then the angel spoke, saying, This thing is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father who is full of grace and truth. Wherefore, you shall do all that you do in the name of the Son. And you shall repent and call upon God in the name of the Son for ever more.
And in that day the holy ghost fell upon Adam, which bore record of the Father and the Son, saying, I am the Only Begotten of the Father from the beginning, henceforth and for ever, that as you have fallen, you may be redeemed — and all mankind, even as many as choose. And in that day, Adam blessed God, and was filled, and began to prophesy concerning all the families of the earth, saying, Blessed be the name of God, for because of my transgression my eyes are opened, and in this life I shall have joy, and again, in my flesh I shall see God. And Eve his wife heard all these things and was glad, saying, Were it not for our transgression, we should never had seed, and should never had known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God gives unto all the obedient. And Adam and Eve blessed the name of God, and they made all things known unto their sons and their daughters. (Moses 5:1 - 12, OC Genesis 3 pars. 1 - 4)


The events in the beginning occurred with a husband and wife together.

They both were brought up to receive "this priesthood" and then they together were sent as "servants" of the Lord to their sons and daughters.

In the account in 3 Nephi of the Lord's appearance to the Nephites did not all there, men, women, and children, all receive the Lord's "servants" (both mortal men and angels), and the Lord Himself?

As we read about the Lord praying to the Father for those in the multitude, words that were understood in the hearts of the multitude but they were incapable of speaking, is it possible to consider that at that point they might have also received the Father?

Is it possible that all men, women, and children in the multitude were "ordained" unto "this priesthood" at this time?

Can someone who has not received "this priesthood" speak the words and will of the Lord unto salvation?

Is this a critical principle to understand in this world?

Are there charlatans and those who suppose they have authority to speak in the name of the Lord, by virtue of holding an office in an organization, who deceive many?

The world always mistook false prophets for true ones, and those that were sent of God, they considered to be false prophets and hence they killed, stoned, punished and imprisoned the true prophets, and these had to hide themselves “in deserts and dens, and caves of the earth,” and though the most honorable men of the earth, they banished them from their society as vagabonds, whilst they cherished, honored and supported knaves, vagabonds, hypocrites, impostors, and the basest of men. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 206)

Is it part of my test in mortality to figure out which individuals are true servants and which ones are charlatans and liars?

Another item of note is that Nephi is expounding upon the scriptural words of Lehi to teach his brothers.

Couldn't Nephi, who has just seen a vision of all things, speak to his brothers using his own witness and declarations instead of expounding on his father's words?

Why would he not speak some of the marvelous things he has just seen?

Is this event with Nephi and his brothers similar in any way to the Lord teaching two of His disciples on the road to Emmaus following His resurrection?

Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken. Ought not Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. (Luke 24:25 - 27, NC Luke 14 par. 2)

Couldn't the resurrected Lord have declared an infinite number of new things to His two disciples?

Why did He expound the words of scripture to them?

What about Jacob at the temple among the Nephites?

And now behold, my brethren, as I said unto you that I would prophesy, behold, this is my prophecy, that the things which this prophet Zenos spake concerning the house of Israel, in the which he likened them unto a tame olive tree, must surely come to pass. And in the day that he shall set his hand again the second time to recover his people, is the day, yea, even the last time, that the servants of the Lord shall go forth in his power to nourish and prune his vineyard. And after that, the end soon cometh. And how blessed are they who have labored diligently in his vineyard, and how cursed are they who shall be cast out into their own place. And the world shall be burned with fire. And how merciful is our God unto us, for he remembereth the house of Israel, both roots and branches; and he stretches forth his hands unto them all the day long. And they are a stiffnecked and a gainsaying people, but as many as will not harden their hearts shall be saved in the kingdom of God. (Jacob 6:1 - 4, NC Jacob 4 par. 1)

Why did Jacob, in order to prophesy, recite the scriptural words of the prophet Zenos and then expound on those words and prophesy that Zenos' words would come to pass?

Obviously Jacob has witnessed things that allow him to understand the allegory of Zenos.  Why not declare those things in his own words?

Is this a sign that Nephi really is a "servant" of the Lord because he is expounding scripture?

Is this a sign that Nephi is meek?

A difficult attribute to recognize, it is found in the relationship between man and God, not between man and man; to be meek is to follow the Lord’s will, even when one doesn’t want to do so, even when it brings one into conflict with friends, family, or community. Meekness is measured as between the servant and the Lord, not as between the servant and his critics. Meekness, among other things, involves a conscious effort to avoid harming or offending others. It requires an absence of pride or self-will. It is not insistent upon being recognized or applauded. It denotes a willingness to suffer without complaint. Others may never recognize the meek, because meekness does not vaunt itself nor demand notice. There is great freedom in meekness. It relieves the meek from the burden of seeking their acclaim. It gives them the security of feeling God’s approval for their course of living. It is private. Meekness means a person voluntarily restrains himself and uses the absolute minimum control or authority over others. It is related to humility. Humility is voluntary submission to the control or power of God — in other words, obedience. Meekness affects a person’s relationship with his fellow man. There is nothing showy or attention-grabbing about the meek. Instead, they are content to know they have a relationship and power with God. Unless God requires something to be done or revealed, the meek do not voluntarily put this authority on display. (T&C Glossary of Terms, "Meekness")

Is there anything showy or attention-grabbing about Nephi expounding on the scriptural words of his father, Lehi?

By declaring only his father Lehi's words and expounding upon them does Nephi avoid the danger of possibly binding the Lord through his, Nephi's words?

Weren't Lehi's words what caused Nephi to ponder and to desire to see the same thing; which led to him receiving his great vision?

Is it possible that Nephi considers that his father's words would have the greatest effect on the hearts of his brothers to cause them to ponder and receive the very same thing he has just received?

If I am unwilling to ponder and give heed and diligence to the words of scripture and ask the Father for understanding of them would I give heed and diligence to "new" and "spectacular" things being spoken to me?

Truly I say unto you, I will liken you unto the rich man. For there was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus who was laid at his gate, full of sores and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table; moreover, the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass that the beggar died and was carried of the angels into Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and likewise, Lazarus evil things, but now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed so that they who would pass from here to you cannot, neither can they pass to us that would come from there. Then he said, I ask you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, for I have five brethren, that he may testify unto them lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one should rise from the dead. (Luke 16:19 - 31, NC Luke 9 par. 20)

If I am to believe the Lord, then I presently understand that if I do not believe the scriptures, Moses and the prophets, and give heed and diligence to their words then I would not be persuaded by some other marvelous thing even by one rising from the dead.

Such is the power the Lord declares is contained in the scriptures, or in other words, the words of HIs "servants" spoken as they were filled with the spirit of the Lord. 

Saturday, November 20, 2021

The Lord Maketh No Such Thing Known Unto Us

 1 Nephi 15:6 - 11, NC 1 Nephi 4 par, 2


And it came to pass that after I had received strength, I spake unto my brethren, desiring to know of them the cause of their disputations. And they said, Behold, we cannot understand the words which our father hath spoken concerning the natural branches of the olive tree, and also concerning the gentiles. And I said unto them, Have ye inquired of the Lord? And they said unto me, We have not, for the Lord maketh no such thing known unto us. Behold, I said unto them, How is it that ye do not keep the commandments of the Lord? How is it that ye will perish because of the hardness of your hearts? Do ye not remember the thing which the Lord hath said, If ye will not harden your hearts, and ask me in faith, believing that ye shall receive, with diligence in keeping my commandments, surely these things shall be made known unto you?


The Stick of Joseph in the Hand of Ephraim, 1 Nefi 4 par. 2


And it came to pass that after I had received strength, I spoke unto my brothers, desiring to know of them the cause of their disputations. And they said, Behold, we cannot understand the words which our father has spoken concerning the natural branches of the olive tree, and also concerning the Goyim. And I said unto them, Have you inquired of yhwh? And they said unto me, We have not, for yhwh makes no such thing known unto us. Behold, I said unto them, How is it that you do not keep the mitzvot of yhwh? How is it that you will perish because of the hardness of your hearts? Do you not remember the thing which yhwh has said, If you will not harden your hearts, and ask me in faith, believing that you shall receive, with diligence in keeping my mitzvot, surely these things shall be made known unto you?


Is Nephi's lack of strength following his amazing vision a detail that demonstrates that Nephi really has encountered heaven?

Is such a condition consistent with what occurred to his father, Lehi?

Wherefore, it came to pass that my father Lehi, as he went forth, prayed unto the Lord, yea, even with all his heart in behalf of his people. And it came to pass as he prayed unto the Lord, there came a pillar of fire and dwelt upon a rock before him, and he saw and heard much. And because of the things which he saw and heard, he did quake and tremble exceedingly. And it came to pass that he returned to his own house at Jerusalem. And he cast himself upon his bed, being overcome with the spirit and the things which he had seen...  (1 Nephi 1:5 - 15, NC 1 Nephi 1 par. 3)

Is it consistent with the experience Moses had?

And it came to pass that Moses looked and beheld the world upon which he was created. And as Moses beheld the world, and the ends thereof, and all the children of men who are and who were created, of the same he greatly marveled and wondered. And the presence of God withdrew from Moses, that his glory was not upon him, and Moses was left unto himself. And as he was left unto himself, he fell unto the earth. And it came to pass that it was for the space of many hours before he did again receive his natural strength like unto man. And he said unto himself, Now for this once I know that man is nothing, which thing I never had supposed. But now my eyes have beheld God — but not my natural eyes, but my spiritual, for my natural eyes could not have beheld, for I should have withered and died in his presence. But his glory was upon me and I beheld his face, for I was transfigured before him. (Moses 1:8 - 11, OC Genesis 1 par. 2)

Is it consistent with what the Prophet Joseph experienced?

When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength, but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fire piece, Mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, Never mind, all is well; I am well enough off. I then told my mother, I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true. (Joseph Smith History 1:20, T&C 1, Joseph Smith History Part 2 par. 6)

Is it possible in this conversation with his brothers, to detect here that Nephi is now beginning his reign and ministry among his family?

Had Nephi ministered to his brothers before this time? 

Can it be seen in the record of the Book of Mormon that Nephi had to qualify to be called to minister to his brothers?

Did Nephi have to be obedient to the commands of God in order to receive what was necessary to qualify to minister to his brothers and his family?

Can we find in the scriptures a more current example of how an individual would qualify to minister to others?

What about Hyrum?

This is a command from the Lord to Hyrum when Hyrum expressed a desire to be a part of the Lord's work.

Behold, this is your work: to keep my commandments, yea, with all your might, mind, and strength. Seek not to declare my word, but first seek to obtain my word, and then shall your tongue be loosened. Then, if you desire, you shall have my spirit and my word, yea, the power of God unto the convincing of men. But now hold your peace, study my word which has gone forth among the children of men, and also study my word which shall come forth among the children of men, or that which is now translating, yea, until you have obtained all which I shall grant unto the children of men in this generation, and then shall all things be added thereunto. Behold, you are Hyrum, my son. Seek the kingdom of God and all things shall be added according to that which is just. Build upon my rock, which is my gospel. Deny not the spirit of revelation nor the spirit of prophecy, for woe unto him that denies these things; therefore, treasure up in your hearts until the time which is in my wisdom that you shall go forth. Behold, I speak unto all who have good desires and have thrust in their sickles to reap.  (D&C 11:20 - 27, T&C 1, Joseph Smith History, Part 14 par. 14 - 15)

The above command was given from the Lord to Hyrum in 1829.

When did the Lord declare to Hyrum that it was now in His, the Lord's, wisdom for Hyrum to go forth and minister?

When did the Lord loose Hyrum's tongue and allow Hyrum to declare His, the Lord's, word?

And again, verily I say unto you that my servant William be appointed, ordained, and anointed as a counselor unto my servant Joseph, in the room of my servant Hyrum, that my servant Hyrum may take the office of Priesthood and Patriarch, which was appointed unto him by his father by blessing, and also by right, that from henceforth he shall hold the keys of the Patriarchal blessings upon the heads of all my people, that whoever he blesses shall be blessed and whoever he curses shall be cursed, that whatever he shall bind on the earth shall be bound in Heaven, and that whatever he shall loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven. And from this time forth I appoint unto him that he may be a prophet, and a seer, and a revelator unto my church, as well as my servant Joseph, that he may act in concert also with my servant Joseph, and that he shall receive counsel from my servant Joseph, who shall show unto him the keys whereby he may ask and receive, and be crowned with the same blessings. I crown upon his head the bishopric, and blessing, and glory, and honor, and Priesthood, and gifts of the Priesthood, that once were put upon him that was my servant Oliver Cowdery, that my servant Hyrum may bear record of the things which I shall show unto him, that his name may be had in honorable remembrance from generation to generation for ever and ever. (D&C 124:91 - 96, T&C 141 par. 32)

The above revelation from the Lord concerning Hyrum came in January of 1841.

Hyrum kept the word of the Lord to him from 1829 to 1841 before he became qualified to minister to others.

Now the Lord was loosing Hyrum's tongue and giving Hyrum His, the Lords, words and the power of God unto the convincing of men.  

In the Lord's own words He declared concerning Hyrum that I appoint unto him that he may be a prophet, and a seer, and a revelator unto my church, as well as my servant Joseph, that he may act in concert also with my servant Joseph, and that he shall receive counsel from my servant Joseph, who shall show unto him the keys whereby he may ask and receive, and be crowned with the same blessings. I crown upon his head the bishopric, and blessing, and glory, and honor, and Priesthood, and gifts of the Priesthood, that once were put upon him that was my servant Oliver Cowdery, that my servant Hyrum may bear record of the things which I shall show unto him,...

Ministering to others and bearing record to things the Lord has shown to a person is a serious matter because it concerns the salvation of the souls of the children of men.

The Prophet Joseph declared the following.

A fanciful and flowery an heated imagination beware of; because the things of God are of deep
import; and time, and experience, and careful and ponderous and solemn thoughts can only find
them out. Thy mind, O man! if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation, must stretch as high as the
utmost heavens, and search into and contemplate the darkest abyss, and the broad expanse of
eternity—thou must commune with God. How much more dignified and noble are the thoughts
of God, than the vain imaginations of the human heart! None but fools will trifle with the souls
of men. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 137)

It was only through 12 years of meek and faithful obedience to the commandments of God and those same 12 years of meekly receiving revelation and prophecy from God that Hyrum was able to be transformed into a person who God could trust not to trifle with the souls of men; he, Hyrum received God's word.

In these 12 years of obedience to the commandments of God Hyrum's mind was stretched as high as the utmost heavens and contemplated the darkest abyss, and the broad expanse of eternity.  He had communed with God.

Is it possible that Hyrum's obedience to the commandments of God to him day by day for those twelve years is what allowed the experiences to come that stretched Hyrum's mind to things both above and below and allowed him to commune with God?

My present understanding is that individuals who receive the burden and obligation to minister or lead a soul to salvation, like Hyrum and Nephi, they cannot, even in the least degree, input their thoughts, words, or understanding into a message sent from God to the children of men because God's words are precise in their message and timing to the salvation of the children of men.

Alma declared the following concerning this principle.

Oh that I were an angel, and could have the wish of mine heart, that I might go forth and speak with the trump of God, with a voice to shake the earth, and cry repentance unto every people. Yea, I would declare unto every soul, as with the voice of thunder, repentance and the plan of redemption — that they should repent and come unto our God, that there might be no more sorrow upon all the face of the earth. But behold, I am a man, and do sin in my wish, for I ought to be content with the things which the Lord hath allotted unto me. I ought not to harrow up in my desires the firm decree of a just God, for I know that he granteth unto men according to their desire, whether it be unto death or unto life. Yea, I know that he allotteth unto men — yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable — according to their wills, whether they be unto salvation or unto destruction. Yea, and I know that good and evil have come before all men, or he that knoweth not good from evil is blameless, but he that knoweth good and evil, to him it is given according to his desires, whether he desireth good or evil, life or death, joy or remorse of conscience.  Now, seeing that I know these things, why should I desire more than to perform the work to which I have been called? Why should I desire that I was an angel, that I could speak unto all the ends of the earth? For behold, the Lord doth grant unto all nations, of their own nation and tongue, to teach his word, yea, in wisdom, all that he seeth fit that they should have; therefore, we see that the Lord doth counsel in his wisdom, according to that which is just and true. I know that which the Lord hath commanded me, and I glory in it. I do not glory of myself, but I glory in that which the Lord hath commanded me; yea, and this is my glory, that perhaps I may be an instrument in the hands of God to bring some soul to repentance; and this is my joy. And behold, when I see many of my brethren truly penitent, and coming to the Lord their God, then is my soul filled with joy; then do I remember what the Lord has done for me, yea, even that he hath heard my prayer. Yea, then do I remember his merciful arm which he extended towards me. Yea, and I also remember the captivity of my fathers, for I surely do know that the Lord did deliver them out of bondage, and by this did establish his church. Yea, the Lord God — the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob — did deliver them out of bondage. Yea, I have always remembered the captivity of my fathers; and that same God who delivered them out of the hands of the Egyptians did deliver them out of bondage. Yea, and that same God did establish his church among them. Yea, and that same God hath called me by a holy calling to preach the word unto this people, and hath given me much success, in the which my joy is full. But I do not joy in my own success alone, but my joy is more full because of the success of my brethren who have been up to the land of Nephi. Behold, they have labored exceedingly and have brought forth much fruit; and how great shall be their reward. Now when I think of the success of these my brethren, my soul is carried away, even to the separation of it from the body, as it were, so great is my joy.(Alma 29:1 - 16, NC Alma 15 par. 12 - 13)

These individuals are meek enough to understand that their desires are not important only God's.

They understand that the Lord grants unto the children of men light and knowledge according to His wisdom.

These individuals will not innovate.  They will not go outside the work to which they have been called.

These individuals become "angels" on earth.

For he that receives my servants receives me (T&C 82:17). The word “servants” in this context means “angels.” Angel is derived from the Greek word ággelos [ἄγγελος] which means “messenger.” The messenger must bring a message from the Lord. It does not matter if the messenger is mortal.  The word describes a category of messenger that includes not only pre-mortal and post-mortal spirits, but also living men. When anyone, man or angel, is entrusted with a message from God, the message is God’s. God makes no distinction between the messenger and Himself. And now I have spoken the words which the Lord God hath commanded me (Mosiah 1:18). The angel added nothing. He hid nothing. He delivered what the Lord told him to deliver. These are not merely the words of an angel. Because the angel certifies they originated from God, they are the words of God (see T&C 54:7).  Joseph explained that all angels either have or do belong to this earth: But there are no angels who minister to this earth but those who do belong or have belonged to it. Their status as angel comes from the fact they have met with God, received their assignment and authority from Him, and deliver only the message He instructs should be delivered. They are in His service, and the message is confined to what He has told them to do.  Angels minister to mankind and confer power, light, and truth. They prepare one to receive the Lord. “Neither have angels ceased to minister unto the children of men. For behold, they are subject unto him, to minister according to the word of his command, shewing themselves unto them of strong faith and a firm mind in every form of godliness. And the office of their ministry is to call men unto repentance, and to fulfill and to do the work of the covenants of the Father which he hath made unto the children of men, to prepare the way among the children of men by declaring the word of Christ unto the chosen vessels of the Lord, that they may bear testimony of him; and by so doing, the Lord God prepareth the way that the residue of men may have faith in Christ, that the holy ghost may have place in their hearts, according to the power thereof; and after this manner bringeth to pass the Father the covenants which he hath made unto the children of men.” (Moroni 7:6; emphasis added) Angels minister to “chosen vessels” or mortal messengers, as the Three Nephites did with Mormon and Moroni (see Mormon 4:2). Then these vessels testify and bear testimony so that the way is prepared that the residue of men may have faith in Christ. These three visited with Mormon, but the people to whom Mormon ministered didn’t see them. They ministered to Moroni, and those to whom Moroni ministered didn’t see them. The chosen vessels also become as ministering angels. Many people have received ministering angels. Men, women, and children have, can, and do receive angelic ministers. Angels minister to those with faith, then they are supposed to preach salvation to others. Appearances of angels, like the post-resurrection ministry of Christ, happen with the faithful. Christ appeared as a resurrected minister only to the faithful in Jerusalem. Likewise, He showed Himself to “the more righteous” who had been spared among the Nephites.(T&C Glossary of Terms, Angel)

Because the Lord is bound by His word and because the Lord has declared that by the voice of His servants or in other words "angels" or by His own voice it is the same, is it not a terrible burden to speak in the name of the Lord?

Is it any wonder that the Lord, who is infinitely interested in the salvation of the children of men, who is not trifling with the souls of men, has declared that none should take His name in vain having no authority or in other words none should declare something they are speaking to be from the Lord when it is not?

These mortal "angels", like Hyrum and Nephi, are indispensable to the salvation of the children of men. 

Ministering angels are an indispensable part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That is why those keys were restored so early on in this Dispensation and are so widely disseminated into the LDS Church membership (see JSH 14:1). There is a system by which men learn the mysteries of heaven and are saved. That system is set out in Alma 9:7: first, angels are sent to prepare men and women; second, they are allowed to behold the Lord’s glory; third, they converse with the Lord, at which point they are taught the things that have been prepared from the foundation of the earth for their salvation. All of this is driven by the man or woman’s faith, repentance, and holy works. This is in keeping with Joseph Smith’s revelation about those chosen to become a member of the Church of the Firstborn. They are chosen by the holy angels, to whom the keys of this power belong (see T&C 74:8). If this isn’t happening, then faith does not exist on the earth any longer (see Moroni 7:7). Angels minister to “chosen vessels” or mortal messengers, as the Three Nephites did with Mormon and Moroni (see Mormon 4:2). Then these vessels testify and bear testimony so that the way is prepared that the residue of men may have faith in Christ (Moroni 7:6). These three visited with Mormon, but the people to whom Mormon ministered didn’t see them. They ministered to Moroni, and those to whom Moroni ministered didn’t see them. The chosen vessels also become as ministering angels. Heaven’s “chosen vessels” may seem most unlikely. In the cases of Alma the Younger and Saul of Tarsus, they were wicked when they were chosen. Yet both would later become ministering servants who preached righteousness to the residue of men. Many people have received ministering angels. Men, women, and children have, can, and do receive angelic ministers (see Alma 16:26). When they minister to a man or a woman, it is to enable them — the ones being ministered to — to testify and help others to likewise have faith in Christ. Angels minister to those with faith, who are supposed to then preach salvation to others.( T&C Glossary of Terms, Ministering Angels)

My present understanding is that an individual who arrives to this point on the journey to salvation becomes a part of the Holy Order.

Because of the task they are called to, to minister to the children of men, and because they are allowed to open their mouths to declare repentance to the children of men only according to the faith and heed that the children of men exercise in Christ their task is a great burden.

Knowing God’s plans does not always produce immediate joy. Solomon made this comment after a life of learning, “in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.”

We should not be surprised to learn that initiation into God’s mysteries can be troubling, disquieting, even a burden. If asked to carry a burden by God, do it willingly. If not asked, do not envy. Remember Alma’s statement, “behold, I am a man, and do sin in my wish, for I ought to be content with the things which the Lord hath allotted unto me.” It is our common enemy who stirs up jealousy and envy, rather than patience and meekness. Great works of God fail because mankind will not wait on the Lord. 

Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen, and why are they not chosen? Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson — that the rights of the Priesthood are inseparably connected with the Powers of Heaven and that the Powers of Heaven cannot be controlled nor handled, only upon the principles of righteousness. That they may be conferred upon us, it is true, but when we undertake to cover our sins or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control, or dominion, or compulsion, upon the souls of the children of men in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the Heavens withdraw themselves, the spirit of the Lord is grieved, and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man.

The more God gives, the greater the peril. Weaknesses of appetites, ambitions, passions and covetousness is akin to trying to navigate through a narrow pass, guarded by a great beast, pitiless and cruel, that destroys all those whose zeal and impatience brings them into the reach of the beast. God has provided to us guidance on how to reach Zion. It requires self-discipline and meekness to follow the Lord rather than racing ahead of Him to destruction. ("The Religion of the Fathers", March 2021, Denver C. Snuffer, Jr., pgs. 61 - 62)

Do we read in the Book of Mormon account concerning Nephi's exceeding sorrow due to his knowledge of things that he knew must surely come to pass?

Do we understand the burden placed upon Nephi here at the very beginning of his ministry to his brothers to open his mouth only according to the heed and diligence they were willing to give to Christ's words?

Is the burden of possessing the knowledge that Hyrum and Nephi received a lonely burden?

Do we truly understand what a peril we would pose to the work of the Lord if we possessed the knowledge Nephi and Hyrum received, with our weaknesses of appetites, ambitions, passions and covetousness?

How could we consider that we would, in a mere moment, be able to overcome our zeal and impatience which things would destroy the Lord's work if we were put in possession of the knowledge that Nephi and Hyrum received?

Is it any wonder that it took Hyrum 12 years of consistent obedience to the commandments of God day by day in order to become meek enough to receive such knowledge?

Is it possible that the Book of Mormon record is greatly compressed and so we do not totally understand what time it took or in other words how long it took Nephi to obediently live day by day according to the commandments of God in order to become meek enough to be trusted with the knowledge he received?

Is Nephi in any way beginning this conversation with his brothers of his own will?

I would like to consider Nephi's first words here in his ministry to his brothers in light of my own experiences.

I would like to apply these words to myself.

Have ye inquired of the Lord? And they said unto me, We have not, for the Lord maketh no such thing known unto us. Behold, I said unto them, How is it that ye do not keep the commandments of the Lord? How is it that ye will perish because of the hardness of your hearts? Do ye not remember the thing which the Lord hath said, If ye will not harden your hearts, and ask me in faith, believing that ye shall receive, with diligence in keeping my commandments, surely these things shall be made known unto you?

Nephi's first question here stems from his brothers wanting further clarification concerning the words of their father Lehi concerning the olive tree.

I have heard and read many things in my lifetime that I must truly say I did not and still may not now understand; which things are in the scriptures and teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith and now in the teachings of a living messenger from God, Denver Snuffer.

Isn't Nephi pointing out to me in his first words to his brothers how it is that I may either continue my quest for the understanding of these things I do not understand on the one hand or perish because of the hardness of my heart on the other hand?

I must confess that I have in the past hoped to find information from another mortal who has received what Nephi received instead of inquiring of the Lord.

Isn't such a course filled with the same attitude that Nephi's brothers had that the Lord maketh no such thing known unto (me)?

My present understanding is that such a course is a course that would lead me to perish.

It has taken me a while to come around but I do presently agree with the following.

I have not written any explanation for the Second Anointing or Calling and Election process. I do not think it is important or meaningful to ever write anything about it. What is important is to understand “how” someone would make changes in their lives to then be taught things directly from the Lord. He has a continuing ministry. You should be interested in having Him as your minister.

The books I have written do not ever touch upon Calling and Election, nor discuss the Second Anointing. But they will tell you what is required to go and learn from the Lord about these things directly. If you want answers about that, then follow the same path as the ancients did, as Joseph Smith did, and as Abraham did. I’m only interested in helping you understand the path.

Beyond that, the details of such things are simply irrelevant to someone who is not invited to participate. It is pure voyeurism without any purpose. Rather like putting jewelery on pigs, which Christ recommended against. Not that the inquiry comes from a “pig” but the answer would be subject to public scrutiny by everyone on the web.

The fact you are aware there is more to the Gospel is important. The fact that you become entitled to receive things pertaining to a higher law by living that higher law is also important. What you should focus on is the living, not the curiosity about things which you are not yet prepared to receive. Prepare to receive them. Everything else will be answered to your entire satisfaction once you are. ("Clarification", Denversnuffer.com, May 2, 2010)

Doesn't the above statement reflect what Nephi declared to his brothers that If ye will not harden your hearts, and ask me in faith, believing that ye shall receive, with diligence in keeping my commandments, surely these things shall be made known unto you?
  
I do believe that there is a specific purpose for the Lord to reveal His mysteries to those who exercise faith in Him and obey His voice.

I believe that the following explains my present understanding for the Lord's purpose mentioned above.

Back in those days, I thought all you people had these things. And then there was the patriarchal blessing that I got which said, this is a quote, that “you will again be in the presence of your Father in Heaven while in the second estate.” That’s in my patriarchal blessing. And I thought, well, of course; it belongs there. That’s what we do, isn’t it? I thought we were related to God in an intimate way because, well, the heavens were opened.

And therefore, it was not, to me, shocking when I encountered an angel. And I have encountered many of them. And all of them leave a vivid and permanent impression. I can tell you that it’s been nearly 40 years since the first time I met with an angel. And I can still close my eyes and see the scene this minute.

This stuff happens. My experiences matter only because I can testify that it happens. The content is nothing but voyeurism for you. You need to have a connection with heaven. The scriptures are the authorized accounts given to us that testify to these things. The Lectures on Faith are trying to set it forth in a comprehensive way so that we can all get it. But the gospel is supposed to be a living, breathing, miraculous thing in your life. Whether I’m saved or not doesn’t matter. What matters is whether you are saved or not. And the way in which you become saved is by coming to know “eternal certainty,” the last words in verse 56. And “eternal certainty” is about your salvation, so that you’re not dependent upon someone else for your knowledge of God, but so that you can say in your own right, “I know.”... Nephi couldn’t have been more plain if he had said, “Here’s my guidebook. Here’s my rule book. Here’s my pattern-recognition sequence. You go and do likewise.” He’s trying to get us to get our hands around, as Joseph Smith put it, the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ involves the path to and through the veil into the presence of God, becoming joint heir, becoming a son of God. Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith page 375, he refers to “sons of God who exalt themselves to be God even before they were born, and all can cry Abba, Father.”

Joseph wanted us to take the religion that he restored to the earth rather seriously and to search into and contemplate both the heavens and the darkest abyss. (Podcast #29 Patriarchal Blessings, Denver Snuffer Podcast, August 5, 2018)

My present understanding is that I need to receive understanding and revelation from the Lord so that I can have a connection personally with heaven and by obedience to what is received by that connection come to the point were I possess "eternal certainty" so that I know in my own right that I am saved.

It’s intended to have you understand that He lives, and that He’s willing to associate with you. And that it’s not, as Joseph Smith put it, relying on the words of an old book, the people who lived once long ago, that’s going to save anyone. It’s the dialogue that you engage in with Him now. It’s the living, breathing, vital… He uses the figure of the living vine. And you have to connect to the living vine, and He’s the vine, and you connect to it, and you get life through that. Words could not be more plain.

He’s trying to get… I mean, what does it mean to be connected up with the vine and to derive sustenance from it? I mean, you have to be alive, which is not inert or an object that you move from there to there. If it’s alive, it’s going to grow. It’s going to increase. It’s going to improve. It’s going to have connection with. It’s going to have… Christ was extraordinary in His selection of the things that He wanted to use to communicate to us what He intended the gospel to be. And we read them and say, “That’s cool. I’ll pay my tithing. I’m connected. I got a card, I’m connected.” Well, it’s intended to be more than that, and the way that it becomes more than that is an individual journey in which you receive from Him and become a part of Him, and He does His best to try and use analogies and parables and stories to make it clear to us. And the history of the events that are recorded in scripture are intended to try and make it clear to us, but at the end of the day it’s up to you to have the “aha moment” and realize He really is talking to and inviting you. You, individually, whoever you are, wherever you’re at, whatever your confusion, whatever your doubts, whatever your uncertainties, He wants to talk to you about them. (Podcast #29 Patriarchal Blessings, Denver Snuffer Podcast, August 5, 2018)

Please also consider the following.

I stand beside a great ocean and I cannot convey it to you. I am but a man and all I have is a cup with which to show you. If I labor all my life using my cup I can never convey the ocean to you. Using the limited talent and means I have, with only a cup at a time, I can never convey enough to allow you to comprehend the ocean’s sheer size. My effort mocks the great ocean because my measure is too modest, comparatively microscopic. 

Using a cup, how can I ever portray the depth and pressure of the ocean? How can you ever discover its vast range of temperature in my small cup? How will you understand the relation between temperature and current, or the great power of the ocean’s current? How shall I explain the effect of the moon on the ocean’s tides when I have only a cup to declare it to you? How will the great diversity of both plant and animal life living in the ocean ever be understood when I have only a cup to show you? In the top 600 feet of the ocean lives 90% of known oceanic animal life, but the ocean is over 36,000 feet deep. Mount Everest rises 29,000 feet, and the ocean plunges down more than 7,000 feet beyond Everest’s height. If 90% of the animal life we know lives in less than the top 2% of the ocean, how much life is there in the oceans we know nothing about. Life we have not even a hint exists may thrive in abundance in depths completely hidden from our knowledge.

 The grandeur of Christ’s gospel makes my capacity to declare it pitiful. I confess my inability, and I fear I can never do enough to help this generation to awaken and arise. If I can help you grasp even a little of it, then let me point you to God who can do the rest. Men cannot utter what you need to learn. I am not capable, and it is not lawful. 

[G]reat and marvelous are the works of the Lord, and the mysteries of his Kingdom which he showed unto us, which surpasses all understanding, in glory, and in might, and in dominion, which he commanded us we should not write while we were yet in the Spirit, and are not lawful for men to utter, neither is man capable to make them known, for they are only to be seen and understood by the power of the Holy Spirit, which God bestows on those who love him and purify themselves before him, to whom he grants the privilege of seeing and knowing for themselves that through the power and manifestation of the Spirit, while in the flesh, they may be able to bear his presence in the world of glory.

You can know. God can show it to you. I testify that has and does happen. But if God deigns to show you some of His great mysteries, never think that excuses you from the labor still left undone. Rejoice in your knowledge, but do not forsake God’s work. (Keep the Covenant: Do the Work, Denver C. Snuffer, Jr. 2018, pg. 7)

If I personally fail to follow such a course do I remain in the same situation as Nephi's brothers in being of the opinion that the Lord maketh no such thing known unto me?

How would I ever be able to overcome my weaknesses (which are multitude), my misguided zeal, and my impatience if I am not willing to let the Lord, who knows me better than I know myself, guide me day by day through my life experiences and revelation to me?

Do I really believe what has been said that He wants to talk to me about my confusion, my uncertainties and my doubts?

Do I really believe that He can make known unto me the vastness of the ocean of His gospel?

If I really do believe these things then my present understanding is that this is the path that I must follow in order to give heed to the Lord's words through Nephi to ask in faith, believing that I will receive with diligence in obeying His commandments.

Should I expect that such a journey would require a great deal of time, years maybe even decades, in living day by day demonstrating obedience to the Lord and looking to Him as I ought as was discussed in the previous post?

If I am to be truthful I must state that such an individual journey is frightening to me.

I have expressed to a very good friend that it is really terrifying to me to consider what works the Lord will perform in my life if I give my life over to Him completely.

I say that because it is true.  I don't know what must occur in my life to break my heart so that I cry out to the Lord.  I don't know what life experiences will come along so that my resolve to obey His word will be sufficiently tested to show that I will look to Him as I ought to.  

I believe that the only way materials can be completely tested for total integrity is to perform tests on them that destroy them.

I believe, from what I have read in the scriptures, that that is the manner in which the Lord is able to prove those who would truly follow Him, and be connected to Him, and be able to know that He is and that He is willing to make all such things known unto them.

Now the question that remains for me is do I have the courage to go forward?